“It’s Fine In Moderation”

You know you’ve got a bad reputation when you have to make commercials begging people to believe you’re really not all that terrible.  “It’s fine in moderation…REALLY!!!”  Sad and desperate.

High-fructose corn syrup, this is the equivalent of bribing the popular kids to let you sit with them at lunch.  Proud of yourself?

15 thoughts on ““It’s Fine In Moderation””

  1. I love the way the “nay sayers” can’t come up with any bad things to say about it.

    Like the fact that its been linked to childhood obesity, the corn growers are banking on one single study showing that its comparable to refined sugar, but refined table sugar isn’t that great either.

    There’s more than one source that has issues with HFCS


  2. Who even says that? I can’t eat that: it’s got high fructose corn syrup in it!

    I might say, “It’s got too much sugar,” meaning generally, but seriously.

    And certainly who would object so specifically without have any specific knowledge? Are these actually running on TV?

  3. That is sad!!!

    (oh, and to be the odd one out, my ex had an allergy to corn syrup, so I really did have to question whether the stuff was in there. *laf* )

  4. Wow, I’ve seen these on TV and was horrified!!!

    Here’s the truth about HFCS from helium.com:

    “HCFS is a food additive and preservative. Most is made from genetically altered corn. It is ground into a fine powder and then it is broken down further with a fungus and a bacterium through a process us laymen can’t fathom. It lasts longer than real sugar, and more importantly its cheaper.

    Now in science labs they are trying to figure out why rats fed HCFS are having consistent problems. It seems Male rats are not developing their testes fully after ingesting this chemical and the female rats hearts explode. OH MY.

    It is in almost everything we consume, and unfortunately our bodies cannot break it down the same way as naturally occurring sugars. It must be broken down by our liver. This can cause problems like a fatty liver in people who should otherwise be healthy. It is also suspected to be linked to the increase in type 2 diabetes and some forms of heart disease. ”

    Well, alrighty then, a-holes – define “moderation”! Did you know that ONE can of soda contains approximately 13 teaspoons of HCFS?

    Read labels – refuse to buy foods containing this poison! That’s why they’re suddenly advertising that it’s “really okay!” We’ve hit them in the pocketbook by refusing to buy poisoned food and they’re scared! As well they should be.

  5. I don’t think it tastes very good, either. If you’ve ever compared a Coke made in the U.S. with HFCS and a Mexican bottled Coke (easily identified by the nutritional information sticker stuck on the side for export) that was made with sugar you can easily tell the difference in flavor.

    Also compare regular Heinz ketchup (HFCS) with Heinz organic ketchup made with sugar.

  6. I think some of the reaction to HFCS is a bit hyped. Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation on HFCS and it’s production without a lot of hype. It also has a section on health effects summarizing a number of the medical studies. It includes all the attestations for data sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fructose_corn_syrup

    First – Other bulk sugars (like cane or beet) are sucrose, which is broken down to fructose and glucose in the body by enzymes. HFCS is produced using enzymes in several steps, and the final product is a blend of glucose and fructose – same stuff you get if you eat natural sugar and your body’s enzymes break that down. The main difference is that sucrose starts as a single molecule combining the two. So calling it poison is slightly alarmist.

    Second – the cost in the US is warped by the tariffs and taxes. Most other places in the world, sugar is cheaper.

    Third – from a brief scan of the medical studies, along with some Helium articles (since Jo quoted it above, although only 1 article provided sources) it looks like the biggest impact of HFCS is as much due to the increase in sugar intake or the specific sugar types’ affect on the body (e.g., glucose or fructose) rather than HFCS specifically (although one item on Wikipedia compared HFCS to artificial sweeteners).

    I’m not stating these things to argue HFCS is good for you. It’s probably not. However, if your soda had the equivalent amount of processed sucrose it would still be bad for you in many of the same ways. The fact is that too much sugar consumption in nearly any form is bad. As a society we have started eating lots more sugar over the last few decades, most of it in a refined rather than natural form. When did soda become an acceptable breakfast drink anyway?!

    So the best thing folks can do, whether it’s HFCS or other, is cut back on sugar and stay as close to natural as possible. Personally, I drink very little soda. I buy fruit juice sweetened products when I can (habit now). I suspect what little HFCS I get via other products doesn’t put me at serious risk. (ok, maybe in the chocolate *laf)

  7. Aside from any health concerns (which, BTW, I think are sometimes grossly overstated and alarmist albeit with a grain of truth here and there at bottom), there’s the question of economic impact.

    The simple fact is that corn is a massively subsidized crop in America. There’s too much corn on the market and the farmers who grow it are subsidized to a bare living wage. Then the government has to figure out what the hell to do with all the corn it’s subsidized, so new uses need to be developed for it…hence corn feeding is common with food animals that aren’t designed by nature to eat corn…which drives up the need for anti-biotics, etc. in the animals (such as cattle), and high-fructose corn syrup is added even to products which also contain sugar.

    The cycle has become toxic, and I’m not talking about the effect on our livers. I’m talking about the fact that people are barely scraping by growing a crop we have too much of which must then be adapted to purposes it was never intended for in order to use up all the crops people are growing that we don’t need. That’s a potentially disastrous set up that’s going to topple if we don’t do something to change it.

    What we need is to ween our agricultural sector off of growing so much corn. Put the subsidies temporarily into helping corn farmers switch to other crops and start phasing out the desperate need to use corn in everything at any cost.

  8. I totally agree! Subsidies are simply a form of welfare assistance (which I am fine with) but should be aimed towards long-term self-sustanenace whether that’s crop switching, modernization, retraining, whatever.

  9. Okay, I am in the Twistie camp here. If memory serves, Earl Butz was the Secretary of Agriculture under Richard Nixon ( Sherman, turn on the way back machine) and it was on his watch that government subsidies for corn were increased AND the the whole HFCS phenomenom was promoted. So if we want to play the blame game, it lands squarely on his feet. Is it cheaper, does it help the American farmer and provide for lower costs for the consumer? Well, yes. But then again, trans fats are lower cost alternatives too. I am empathetic to the farmers and businesses, but it is time for these subsidies to be phased out. As Milton Friedman once said, “Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. ”

    I believe HFCS has few health benefits, but I don’t think the government needs to regulate this ( we have labels now that make it clear what we are purchasing). Rather take Peggy’s advice on crop switching ( isn’t this what we are asking of certain Colombian farmers) and modernization. Or are we really going to have corn based fuel (like Brazil) in all of our gas stations ?

    Companies that use HFCS will only offer altenatives if we (the consumer) demand it.

    So when it comes to a choice on HFCS, like Bartleby the Scrivner, “I would prefer not to.”

  10. “Or are we really going to have corn based fuel (like Brazil) in all of our gas stations ?”

    God I hope not.

    While I believe the fuel of the future will not be oil I don’t think the answer should be turning our foodstuffs into go-go juice.

    As far as modernizing our food supply? All for it. The problem is it has to be economically feasible, the easiest way to make it so is to reduce (and eventually eliminate) corn subsidies and offer them on other crops.

    As long as we continue to artificially pump up the price of corn then nothing is going to change.

    “It’s for the farmer’s” after all. Good wholesome Americans are they…..ignoring ADM and Cargill that is.

    All the rest, you know, the .05% of farmers that are family farms.



  11. Another thing that bugs about the commericals… Why would you explicitly bring up a topic in a conversation that you are unable to intelligently discuss? Why would you say something like, “You know what they say about tribbles…” if you aren’t able to elaborate on what exactly it is that people are saying about tribbles? You wouldn’t.

    The whole underlying premise of these commercials is flawed and stupid, my feelings for HFCS completely aside.

  12. HFCS isn’t just for sweetening things, it’s for a number of other uses. That’s why it’s in so many different things. What’s sad is watching people down rate these videos on youtube or attacking those who don’t think HFCS is “poison” as many anti HFCS proponents claim. HFCS isn’t poison. Also, the studies that linked HFCS to obesity don’t take into account that because HFCS is in so many things, it’s obvious why people would be getting fatter eating it.

    People already eat way too much these days, and having HFCS in the mix makes it easy to target. Sugar is in a lot of things too. Just because people get fat off it doesn’t mean it’s specifically THAT item.

    The Corn Refiners really didn’t need to make an AD without explaining this, but even still, it doesn’t surprise me that all the health freaks come out of the woodwork to attack the industry and it’s practices.

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